Leading the people who manage uncertainty
Leading SREs means managing people who manage uncertainty for everyone else. Sebastian Vietz discusses that responsibility, the podcast it inspired, and the patience he also brings to woodworking.

Sebastian Vietz
Director of Reliability Engineering
- Avid woodworker
- Podcast host
- Originally from Germany
- Beach volleyball player
Leading the people who manage uncertainty
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Key Topics Discussed
- The scope of leading a reliability engineering organization
- Why managing SREs differs from leading other software teams
- How the SREpath podcast became a vehicle for shared learning
- A German dish more people should try
- Woodworking as a patient counterpoint to operational work
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Transcript
Tell me a bit about your current role.
Iâm Sebastian Vietzâpronounced like âfeetsâ. Â Officially, I am a Director of Reliability Engineering for a company called Compass Digital, which operates in the hospitality space so we deal with hospitality technology primarily. I lead a team of 10 reliability engineers at the moment, and weâre focused on the product engineering side of things. We make sure those products are reliable as they scale.
How do you think leading SREs is different from leading other types of software teams?
The way I like to build a team of SREs when I get the chance toâand itâs kind of my nicheâevery few years I get to build a team or function with a lot of greenfield opportunities. I like to compose my team with people that are more generalists in nature. I call them professional troubleshooters. People that like to troubleshoot a challenge, who like to go to wherever the problem or challenge and opportunity may be. And thatâs not for everybody, but thatâs usually what Iâm initially looking for when Iâm recruiting SREs or folks that come from adjacent disciplines into my team because oftentimes when you start greenfield, you really go into places where companies tend to hurt and you never know what you encounter there. So people that are very flexible in terms of their mindset and what they are able to do is critically important at that stage.
Youâre also a podcaster - tell me about the SREpath podcast and how that came to be?
Primarily through coincidence. Iâm doing the podcast together with a partner, Ash Patel. Ash and I started to talk and collaborate a few years ago because of a paper he published about the capabilities that reliability engineers should have to be successful in this particular space. And so I started commenting and sharing my own two cents, and we realized we were both interested in this topic but from very different angles. Ash is a former Director of Operations and I am more on the software engineering side, and we noticed we were learning a lot from the different perspectives we had on the topic. We also had a very particular interest in educating folks more on what SRE is and the value of it.
Check out the SREpath podcast and content at srepath.com!
Whatâs a german food dish everyone should try?
I always loved this dish that my grandma made. It was basically a nice piece of beef, with some gravy and with whatever vegetable you would like, but the main highlight of the dish was basically a potato, first mashedânot too fine, that was importantâit needed to be malleable. Then you took it in your hand and you molded it into a little bit of a ball. Then you open the ball and put little pieces of buttered toast into the middle and close it up again. You boiled those balls of potato mash with toast inside.
*Editorâs note: From my Googling, I believe these are called Kartoffelkloesse! Enjoy!
Youâre also an avid woodworker. Whatâs your favorite thing youâve made out of wood?
I think itâs a showcase I built. It started with an oddly shaped piece of lumber that I didnât know what to do with. I ended up using it as a backdrop, and carved slots into it and added shelves.
Over the years Iâve collected really old wood planesâtheyâre tools that you use to shape wood with. Some of my planes are over 100 years old, and I still use them. I wanted to have a really nice place to put them, so I put them on this showcase. It has a really wide shelf at the bottom, then they get smaller as you go further up. I used darker contrasting woods for the shelves, and that one oddly shaped piece for the back is a light color. So it makes for a really nice interesting contrast of colors and shapes, and it has these really old pieces of woodworking history sitting on top of it.




